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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 20:47:51 GMT
Yes because previous games are always indicative. Like how TSM is secretly an individual mafia member, Poli is winning with a flawless victory, and I got lynched first. Or perhaps previous games have absolutely no impact and you're merely grasping at straws. I'm not trying to say that this game is exactly the same as the last one. That'd be silly. Games are different every time. The people playing them are the same. And? You are holding that because I played as a mafia member once and was deceptive, I'm always playing a mafia member and deceptive. Unless you are also holding that Poli is always playing a hyper-competent mafia leader or that you are always on a high horse, which is a donkey, I can't fathom why. Except that you are mafia and deliberately trying to save yourself, which I guess is accurate. |
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Post by Дьяково on Apr 15, 2014 20:48:28 GMT
Ovi is mafia/Infiltrator, as is Dya. Yeah, right, like Hurd was innocent last game. Actually, Hurd was innocent... Strictly speaking anyway. It's just that he won if he and panicberry were the last ones standing. |
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 20:51:33 GMT
I'm not trying to say that this game is exactly the same as the last one. That'd be silly. Games are different every time. The people playing them are the same. And? You are holding that because I played as a mafia member once and was deceptive, I'm always playing a mafia member and deceptive. Unless you are also holding that Poli is always playing a hyper-competent mafia leader or that you are always on a high horse, which is a donkey, I can't fathom why. HOW DARE YOU I mean...uh... You know I still don't get that joke. All I am trying to say is that you've faked this "I have info" thing before and I see absolutely no reason to trust what you're saying now. |
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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 20:55:40 GMT
And? You are holding that because I played as a mafia member once and was deceptive, I'm always playing a mafia member and deceptive. Unless you are also holding that Poli is always playing a hyper-competent mafia leader or that you are always on a high horse, which is a donkey, I can't fathom why. HOW DARE YOU I mean...uh... You know I still don't get that joke. All I am trying to say is that you've faked this "I have info" thing before and I see absolutely no reason to trust what you're saying now. Faked what info? See, here's where you've all messed up; I didn't fake anything. Hurd was innocent, Shaggai and DogDoo were mafia. I played without once bothering to make anything up because lying eventually gets you caught. And now you come in and decide that somehow that means I, more than anyone else, am I liar simply because I've done it the most recently. I mean really, who hasn't been manipulative in a mafia game? |
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 21:06:05 GMT
HOW DARE YOU I mean...uh... You know I still don't get that joke. All I am trying to say is that you've faked this "I have info" thing before and I see absolutely no reason to trust what you're saying now. Faked what info? See, here's where you've all messed up; I didn't fake anything. Hurd was innocent, Shaggai and DogDoo were mafia. I played without once bothering to make anything up because lying eventually gets you caught. I'm still a little confused as to exactly what happened last game but what I do know is that you played me and about half of the other people in that game and it makes me slow to trust you now. Yeah, pretty much. If a guy's a convicted thief you sure as hell don't leave him alone with your new phone. I don't think I have. My greatest triumph involved being a detective and using that position to secure the first civilian victory in TBC history. I was also Mafia once, I think, but I was awfully bad at it probably because I didn't manipulate anyone. Perhaps after this game you can give me lessons. |
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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 21:12:35 GMT
Faked what info? See, here's where you've all messed up; I didn't fake anything. Hurd was innocent, Shaggai and DogDoo were mafia. I played without once bothering to make anything up because lying eventually gets you caught. I'm still a little confused as to exactly what happened last game but what I do know is that you played me and about half of the other people in that game and it makes me slow to trust you now. Yeah, pretty much. If a guy's a convicted thief you sure as hell don't leave him alone with your new phone. I don't think I have. My greatest triumph involved being a detective and using that position to secure the first civilian victory in TBC history. I was also Mafia once, I think, but I was awfully bad at it probably because I didn't manipulate anyone. Perhaps after this game you can give me lessons. Fine I'll challenge you, and all others, this: find a single time that I claimed someone had a role they didn't have. Anyone find any time I accused or voted for someone who wasn't mafia. And really, if we're going to start going down the "Well you were deceptive once!" road then I guess TSM and Poli better join me on the list of people that never get to voice an opinion because - and this is probably the most crucial - they've actually faked info. But really, all of this is pointless. Ovi's mafia, I know that, I don't give a shit if the public actually believes me because on death you all get the nasty "Ed was actually the detective" and you and Dya can join me among the dead. Vote Ovi. |
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Post by Дьяково on Apr 15, 2014 21:13:21 GMT
I'm not trying to say that this game is exactly the same as the last one. That'd be silly. Games are different every time. The people playing them are the same. And? You are holding that because I played as a mafia member once and was deceptive, I'm always playing a mafia member and deceptive. Unless you are also holding that Poli is always playing a hyper-competent mafia leader or that you are always on a high horse, which is a donkey, I can't fathom why. Except that you are mafia and deliberately trying to save yourself, which I guess is accurate. No, he's saying that you've demonstrated that you're very much capable of being a duplicitous bastard and thus care should be taken when you present claims. |
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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 21:16:30 GMT
And? You are holding that because I played as a mafia member once and was deceptive, I'm always playing a mafia member and deceptive. Unless you are also holding that Poli is always playing a hyper-competent mafia leader or that you are always on a high horse, which is a donkey, I can't fathom why. Except that you are mafia and deliberately trying to save yourself, which I guess is accurate. No, he's saying that you've demonstrated that you're very much capable of being a duplicitous bastard and thus care should be taken when you present claims. Again, who hasn't? TSM lied and told you to send it TGs. Poli sent you a fake TG saying she was innocent. Shaggai feebly tried to claim he wasn't mafia. Everyone has lied. Get over it. |
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Post by SCIENCE on Apr 15, 2014 21:17:19 GMT
Don't talk so loud! People are sleeping!
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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 21:18:50 GMT
Well they better wake the hell up soon or the mafia kills us all.
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Post by Дьяково on Apr 15, 2014 21:26:20 GMT
No, he's saying that you've demonstrated that you're very much capable of being a duplicitous bastard and thus care should be taken when you present claims. Again, who hasn't? TSM lied and told you to send it TGs. Poli sent you a fake TG saying she was innocent. Shaggai feebly tried to claim he wasn't mafia. Everyone has lied. Get over it. I'm just clarifying what he was saying is all... *shrugs* Edit: Ummm... Poli was innocent... |
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Post by Serrland on Apr 15, 2014 21:34:41 GMT
Well they better wake the hell up soon or the mafia kills us all. I feel like I'm on a boat going up the Congo River into madness. Mistah Kurtz – he dead and all. Or, if you prefer the movie adaptation, motoring up the Nung River into the heart of the land of insanity. |
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 22:37:28 GMT
I'm still a little confused as to exactly what happened last game but what I do know is that you played me and about half of the other people in that game and it makes me slow to trust you now. Yeah, pretty much. If a guy's a convicted thief you sure as hell don't leave him alone with your new phone. I don't think I have. My greatest triumph involved being a detective and using that position to secure the first civilian victory in TBC history. I was also Mafia once, I think, but I was awfully bad at it probably because I didn't manipulate anyone. Perhaps after this game you can give me lessons. Fine I'll challenge you, and all others, this: find a single time that I claimed someone had a role they didn't have. Anyone find any time I accused or voted for someone who wasn't mafia. Okay. From a PM you sent me last game: Well I'm certain Poli is mafia. Knock yourself out. It's night. I've no more to say, really. I've made my point. People can believe it, or not, as they wish. |
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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 22:39:06 GMT
And tell me exactly where "I'm certain Poli is mafia" was wrong.
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 22:41:50 GMT
And tell me exactly where "I'm certain Poli is mafia" was wrong. Because she wasn't Mafia. And you knew that. |
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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 22:42:34 GMT
And tell me exactly where "I'm certain Poli is mafia" was wrong. Because she wasn't Mafia. And you knew that. Then who besides me, Shaggai, and DogDoo were mafia? Because there were four. |
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Post by Hurdegaryp on Apr 15, 2014 22:47:49 GMT
Because she wasn't Mafia. And you knew that. Then who besides me, Shaggai, and DogDoo were mafia? Because there were four. *sepulchral voice* Hear my call from beyond the cold grave: Poli was very much a full-fledged member of the Mafia in her previous life.
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 22:50:26 GMT
Then who besides me, Shaggai, and DogDoo were mafia? Because there were four. *sepulchral voice* Hear my call from beyond the cold grave: Poli was very much a full-fledged member of the Mafia in her previous life.
Were there two separate mafias in the last game? And how does everyone know all this? Meh, it's not relevant anyway. It's a mere technicality. I don't particularly care if extra special care was taken to avoid direct lying, we still got played. |
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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 23:09:57 GMT
*sepulchral voice* Hear my call from beyond the cold grave: Poli was very much a full-fledged member of the Mafia in her previous life.
Were there two separate mafias in the last game? And how does everyone know all this? Meh, it's not relevant anyway. It's a mere technicality. I don't particularly care if extra special care was taken to avoid direct lying, we still got played. Well I personally think it's pretty damn important to prove the person you're accusing of being a filthy liar actually did tell a lie. Perhaps next time you should ask if I'm mafia. |
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 23:15:19 GMT
Were there two separate mafias in the last game? And how does everyone know all this? Meh, it's not relevant anyway. It's a mere technicality. I don't particularly care if extra special care was taken to avoid direct lying, we still got played. Well I personally think it's pretty damn important to prove the person you're accusing of being a filthy liar actually did tell a lie. Did I ever actually call you a liar? I'm not sure I did. Either way, as I've pointed out numerous times, whether or not you lied is beside the point (and yet you keep coming back to it - who's grasping at straws again) as my point was merely that you are untrustworthy. Because yeah, you'd totally have told me. |
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Post by panicberry on Apr 15, 2014 23:22:52 GMT
Well I personally think it's pretty damn important to prove the person you're accusing of being a filthy liar actually did tell a lie. Did I ever actually call you a liar? I'm not sure I did. Either way, as I've pointed out numerous times, whether or not you lied is beside the point (and yet you keep coming back to it - who's grasping at straws again) as my point was merely that you are untrustworthy. Because yeah, you'd totally have told me. "And now you come in and decide that somehow that means I, more than anyone else, am a liar simply because I've done it the most recently." " Yeah, pretty much. If a guy's a convicted thief you sure as hell don't leave him alone with your new phone." Well shit I mean if you're going to not only call a person a liar but also then use that as proof that they shouldn't be trusted, perhaps you shouldn't lie about your own dealings. |
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Post by The Beautiful Darkness on Apr 15, 2014 23:24:07 GMT
I'm not technically allowed to speak, so this is strictly not related to this game but: Geeze, knock it off. If we played mafia with integrity it wouldn't be fun.
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 23:28:48 GMT
Did I ever actually call you a liar? I'm not sure I did. Either way, as I've pointed out numerous times, whether or not you lied is beside the point (and yet you keep coming back to it - who's grasping at straws again) as my point was merely that you are untrustworthy. Because yeah, you'd totally have told me. "And now you come in and decide that somehow that means I, more than anyone else, am a liar simply because I've done it the most recently." " Yeah, pretty much. If a guy's a convicted thief you sure as hell don't leave him alone with your new phone." Well shit I mean if you're going to not only call a person a liar but also then use that as proof that they shouldn't be trusted, perhaps you shouldn't lie about your own dealings. Seriously? You're trying to turn a tiny point of semantics into proof that I'm a hypocritical liar. I mean for a start I'm not. I said I didn't think I'd ever accused you of lying. This is true. It's just unfortunate that I thought wrongly. If you're going to nitpick, do it right. But I'm dropping this. Because I made a legitimate point about you and the accusations you're levelling and you're trying to distract everyone from it by picking at the phrasing of things I said ages ago. I'm not going to legitimise that kind of carry-on by continuing to reply to it. |
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Post by Shaggai on Apr 15, 2014 23:30:07 GMT
This argument is suspicious. I'm going to vote Ovi, because I'm pretty sure Edlich is innocent. If I'm wrong about Edlich, sorry everyone.
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Post by Indigo on Apr 15, 2014 23:39:03 GMT
You guys lost me.
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 23:41:29 GMT
I think we lost ourselves too. |
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Post by Indigo on Apr 15, 2014 23:42:31 GMT
I think we lost ourselves too. Who am I supposed to vote for?  |
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Post by Oviraptor on Apr 15, 2014 23:43:15 GMT
I think we lost ourselves too. Who am I supposed to vote for? Right now? No one, it's night. |
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Post by Indigo on Apr 15, 2014 23:50:30 GMT
Who am I supposed to vote for? Right now? No one, it's night. It is? Oh. |
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Post by chandelier on Apr 16, 2014 0:13:50 GMT
Yeah still death(s) to come before deciding who to lynch and information to be gained from that. Or just more confusion, based on how this has gone so far...
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