Breadknife
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Post by Breadknife on Jul 2, 2014 23:28:19 GMT
Well, although you know how close I got to that, can I just say "darnit". (I'm going to label them as a Vig, on my summary, if town-aligned. Although Hurd must have 'read' their role as SK, not possibly misguided townie-with-killing-role.) You're nasty.
Can we just confirm Ovi, DM and Chand, then? And who was the "Evil Witch Of Silence"/whatever?
PS, Mafia, you were really close to inevitable victory (what did I calculate, TBD? 31/35ths chance of winning for purely random play, on Day 4, wasn't it?) even before getting the lovers, but you were premature in (re-)killing me. At that point I was still totally all over the place, in my theories, and you could easily have instead killed one of the other more serious power-roles if you'd have avoided getting rid of me until later. Actually, even until the end had about a gazillion different theories, some of which were laughably wrong. (Yeah, I even thought Gamerdog was utterly guilty. I'd have voted for them if it would have mattered.)
PPS, Town: I assume there was no Town Cabal formed. At least not any one of more than a couple of people in a "maybe baby" relationship.
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Post by The Beautiful Darkness on Jul 2, 2014 23:37:25 GMT
Yeah, I did get a bit of a laugh at some of your theories. I don't typically reveal the roles of the people left alive. If they would like to do that, I leave that to their own discretion.
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Gamerdog
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Post by Gamerdog on Jul 3, 2014 0:49:34 GMT
The people that thought I was guilty are the people that make me the
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Breadknife
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Post by Breadknife on Jul 3, 2014 1:20:15 GMT
I thought it only fair that I give everyone else the same opportunity to have a laugh. (If only to show how I'm not necessarily the person you ought to kill off so quickly (or repeatedly) in future games.) The following are summaries (so pity our poor Mod, who got the full texts!) of my background ramblings. Learn what you will from them. I don't mind making things more interesting, in future... I've coloured some bits of it as proven true or false (and some limited bits that are iffy), but there are still gaps in my knowledge. (To be honest, I'm also looking forward to finding out how much of each colour will appear in what I say.) 19/Jun 00:26 (all times BST/GMT+1) {Spoiler}Thought Gd, NVO and that guy with the rogue " currently in his name might be Mafia. (And had almost voted to lynch NVO, when it would have forced a roll-off between them and Nap, but didn't.) Thought DM, Jello and Wytyg might not be mafia, but mostly DM. Decided to protect DM, as a possible target. (Also had been expecting something like the Easter Chocolate protection indicators, so didn't even think to protect myself.) Darnit! I died. But now I'm alive again... oooookkk?20/Jun 00:44 {Spoiler}Half-trusted Blassy, thanks to private communique, but only half. 'Pre-booked' that I should protect myself, tonight, unless I changed my mind. (Oh yeah, at some point around now I got "Elderberry talking to me. But I would only have had to ignore it, man! I suppose it was lucky I didn't have to test my resolve.) 21/Jun 14:50 {Spoiler}Gamerdog (albeit hyper-circumstancially) looks very guilty. NVO looks somewhat guilty. Still half-trust Blassy. Dya suspicious, but then again Dya is always suspicious, as everyone knows. *Note: Well played! Had initially thought Hurd might be Jack (he of the Beanstalk) under similar thing to Nap with the goose-theme. Still think I'd be a target, the coming night. 22/Jun 23:16 {Spoiler}Think NVO is non-mafia (maybe Cop role?), would be high on the target list for Mafia (in particular, DM). Think Dya is mafia, but if Dya is not then they wouldn't be highly targeted. (Likely to be lynchable.) Decide not to protect myself, but protect NVO. (It'd be silly to kill me, anyway, given how wrong I probably am. And they'd assume that I was protecting myself, anyway, so wouldn't target me at all.) 23/Jun 22:31 Darnit! I died (again). But they really should have tried their luck in getting the presumed Vigilante character, instead. 24/Jun 18:15 {Spoiler}Thought Serrland might have been Silenced. NVO now looks guilty, again (from voting record, although the dead innocents were as bad). But I think I'm more adrift than ever, in tying down the guilty people. 26/Jun 01:42 {Spoiler}Theories: 1) High-stakes ruse to de-bandwagon (did not work) 2) A role-reversed version of previously seen "Mafia Leader can convert if Mafia Footsoldier gets lynched" 3) Concrete alibis? 4) Two silencing roles? 5) TBD messing with our heads. 6) Random method for Silencing others Decide, on balance, that Serrland wasn't silenced, but that leaves too many other options. Decide that there's a Hansel and/or Gretel, as town vigilante(s), and a load of other speculation. (Including that both exist, with Lover status between them.) 27/Jun 09:09 {Spoiler}Presumably no other Doctor left (after I'd died) so separate Blocker, or one-shot Bulletproof? Still looking for the Evil Witch Of Silence plus two vanilla Mafia. Three townies of some kind plus expended Reviver, expended Vigilante, and a maybe-Blocker? Predict high chance of town-death (31 to 4, based on pure randomness without still extant roles being used effectively). Hope that the Cop is trusting someone. 27/Jun 18:19 {Spoiler}NVO: "well, yes, but considering Jello was defending Serrland..." -> but this statement makes NVO look more guilty, in my eyes. Jello actually looks more innocent. Hurd looks innocent. Blassy innocent. DM and Chand bandwagonning, indicating Mafia? Trust less than before, certainly. Vague possibility, though, that Jello and NVO are both Mafia and trading mafia members for (unwarranted) trust from remaining townies. 30/Jun 08:01 {Spoiler}Think Jello was Silenced, prior to Lynching. NVO more suspicious. Also Chand. Wondering if anybody will be Silenced tomorrow, and probably would have tried to find out (or at least get a virtual claim by lack-of-response), if I was still alive. Somewhat clueless about who I might have protected (except self) but... maybe Wytyg would have been a good choice? (Everyone assuming a one-time bulletproof.) Mafia will: - Not target Blassy (innocent but professing themselves as not an immediate threat) - Not target Chand (is mafia) - Not target DM (is mafia) - Maybe target Hurd (town, a threat to mafia?) - Not target NVO (Mafia second in command?) - Not target Ovi (looks innocent, but like like lynchable tomorrow) - Not target She-ep (innocent? too quiet to look threatening, due to RL vacation?) - ...so most likely target Wytyg 1/Jul 01:16 {Spoiler}NVO definite Mafia Previously assumed Hansel/Gretel Vigilante(s) actually is singular SK, but not sure who. Blassy still remains innocent-looking (mostly) Ovi gaining even more innocent credibility Chand and DM are non-townies of mafia/SK form Blassy might be Silenced. If so, Ovi (the innocent) could not stop Mafia bandwaggoning Town victory only practical if two Mafia, two Town and SK (voting with town), with no Silencing effect Could Ovi and someone else be Hansel and Gretel, playing their own game? 1/Jul 01:23 {Spoiler}Note that Blassy is obviously not Silenced. Keeping an eye on Chand/DM possibly being Silenced. Perhaps these are Hansel/Gretel. 1/Jul 03:53 {Spoiler}Note that Chand spoke. Chand+Ovi=Hansel+Gretel? If not, NVO=single SK, Chand mafia, Ovi possibly I wonder if Hurd might have Cop-acted on myself N1 (or someone else innocent), Serrland N2 (almost certain), NVO on N3 (discovered them to be Mafia/SK, but couldn't sway the vote), who-knows on N4. Town is doomed.
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Gamerdog
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Post by Gamerdog on Jul 3, 2014 1:24:51 GMT
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Post by Breadknife on Jul 3, 2014 1:29:12 GMT
The people that thought I was guilty are the people that make me the ...best coffee? ...offer you can't refuse? ...happiest princess in the whole-wide-world? ...'erotic art' that you have entirely decorated your mansion with? (Given that I'm definitely included in that list, I'm all of a quiver awaiting news of how exactly I feature in your life!)
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Post by jello on Jul 3, 2014 1:46:05 GMT
30/Jun 08:01 Think Jello was Silenced, prior to Lynching.
Yep!
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Post by Gamerdog on Jul 3, 2014 2:09:00 GMT
The people that thought I was guilty are the people that make me the ...best coffee? ...offer you can't refuse? ...happiest princess in the whole-wide-world? ...'erotic art' that you have entirely decorated your mansion with? (Given that I'm definitely included in that list, I'm all of a quiver awaiting news of how exactly I feature in your life!) *"suspicious" art
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Post by Oviraptor on Jul 3, 2014 8:28:19 GMT
Oh. Shit. Sorry.
I wasn't Mafia. I was a boring old townie, just an incompetent one.
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Post by chandelier on Jul 3, 2014 13:42:36 GMT
Dya and I were paired together. Had either of us been lynched, it would have failed the first time. The second time, it would have gotten both of us.
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Post by Дьяково on Jul 3, 2014 13:55:34 GMT
The people that thought I was guilty are the people that make me the ...best coffee? ...offer you can't refuse? ...happiest princess in the whole-wide-world? ...'erotic art' that you have entirely decorated your mansion with? (Given that I'm definitely included in that list, I'm all of a quiver awaiting news of how exactly I feature in your life!) All of the above. *nods*
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Post by whereyouthinkyoupoliying on Jul 3, 2014 18:50:45 GMT
Aw poop, mafia wins. Fun game, TBD! I liked the fairy tale theme. Suuuper frustrating to play, though, since I just could not get a handle on people. It was like I said in the thread: almost everybody's posts kept going from suspicious to innocent to suspicious to innocent to suspicious etc.etc. Chandy and Jello both were posting in a different way from usual (which would have meant jello was innocent and Chandy guilty ), but a bunch of stuff and their voting didn't really gel. Can we just confirm Ovi, DM and Chand, then? And who was the "Evil Witch Of Silence"/whatever? Yes, please! Was DM mafia? Gamerdog was the guiltiest-looking innocent ever! Everybody would have voted for him! Not that I could tell, no - and I was desperate for someone to contact me. QUESTION TO ALL TOWNIES: why did nobody contact me after I survived the mafia attack?? TBD even wrote the scene in a way that spelled it out that it was indeed a mafia attack, not some random vigilante, so I *had* to be innocent. Yet nothing, nada. I even surreptitiously posted "I'm a confirmed innocent" in the thread, but nope. Decide, on balance, that Serrland wasn't silencedYeah, was he or wasn't he? And who was doing the silencing (see above)? (Wait, why is that in green? Did I miss it being confirmed that he was faking?) Yeah, the curse of talking a lot in-thread... I just don't seem to be able to play a quiet game and it always means I get attacked earlier than others. 30/Jun 08:01 Think Jello was Silenced, prior to Lynching. Yep! I was stupid re. that one. After the attack on me, not only was I waiting for people to contact me, but She-ep also pointed out that the cupid should really be contacting us now, because if I'm innocent and was attacked by mafia it means that the other lover, i.e. he, is also innocent. But nobody reached out. All the while I was super sure that you were being silenced. Trust me to not put the two together... In my defense: that was the day when we were fretting about NOBODY contacting me, so it didn't automatically follow that the cupid was only being detained by circumstances outside their control. But still. If we had connected the dots, She-ep and I could have joined Hurd (?) in his vote that day and not let you get lynched. So yeah, sorry! Also, when we were pondering who the cupid might be, we thought it might be someone interested in soccer, seeing how they put the Dutchman and the German together, of all pairings. Dya and I were paired together. Had either of us been lynched, it would have failed the first time. The second time, it would have gotten both of us. So you were mafia, too, then? (It probably follows but you never know with these games!)
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Post by Gamerdog on Jul 3, 2014 18:54:06 GMT
Honestly, I think that Serrland turning out to actually be a mafia DAYS after I was lynched for accusing him of being such was vindicating enough to justify my lynching. At least in my mind.
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Post by chandelier on Jul 3, 2014 20:01:16 GMT
Aw poop, mafia wins. Fun game, TBD! I liked the fairy tale theme. Suuuper frustrating to play, though, since I just could not get a handle on people. It was like I said in the thread: almost everybody's posts kept going from suspicious to innocent to suspicious to innocent to suspicious etc.etc. Chandy and Jello both were posting in a different way from usual (which would have meant jello was innocent and Chandy guilty ), but a bunch of stuff and their voting didn't really gel. Can we just confirm Ovi, DM and Chand, then? And who was the "Evil Witch Of Silence"/whatever? Yes, please! Was DM mafia? Gamerdog was the guiltiest-looking innocent ever! Everybody would have voted for him! Not that I could tell, no - and I was desperate for someone to contact me. QUESTION TO ALL TOWNIES: why did nobody contact me after I survived the mafia attack?? TBD even wrote the scene in a way that spelled it out that it was indeed a mafia attack, not some random vigilante, so I *had* to be innocent. Yet nothing, nada. I even surreptitiously posted "I'm a confirmed innocent" in the thread, but nope. Decide, on balance, that Serrland wasn't silencedYeah, was he or wasn't he? And who was doing the silencing (see above)? (Wait, why is that in green? Did I miss it being confirmed that he was faking?) Yeah, the curse of talking a lot in-thread... I just don't seem to be able to play a quiet game and it always means I get attacked earlier than others. I was stupid re. that one. After the attack on me, not only was I waiting for people to contact me, but She-ep also pointed out that the cupid should really be contacting us now, because if I'm innocent and was attacked by mafia it means that the other lover, i.e. he, is also innocent. But nobody reached out. All the while I was super sure that you were being silenced. Trust me to not put the two together... In my defense: that was the day when we were fretting about NOBODY contacting me, so it didn't automatically follow that the cupid was only being detained by circumstances outside their control. But still. If we had connected the dots, She-ep and I could have joined Hurd (?) in his vote that day and not let you get lynched. So yeah, sorry! Also, when we were pondering who the cupid might be, we thought it might be someone interested in soccer, seeing how they put the Dutchman and the German together, of all pairings. Dya and I were paired together. Had either of us been lynched, it would have failed the first time. The second time, it would have gotten both of us. So you were mafia, too, then? (It probably follows but you never know with these games!) That I was.
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Post by The Beautiful Darkness on Jul 3, 2014 21:52:27 GMT
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Wytyg! I do try to make them fun and add an element of surprise.
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Post by Oviraptor on Jul 3, 2014 21:55:11 GMT
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Wytyg! I do try to make them fun and add an element of surprise. You definitely accomplished both of those.
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Post by The Beautiful Darkness on Jul 3, 2014 22:12:22 GMT
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Post by Дьяково on Jul 4, 2014 1:01:02 GMT
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Wytyg! I do try to make them fun and add an element of surprise. You definitely accomplished both of those. I'll second the sentiment.
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Post by jello on Jul 4, 2014 1:14:26 GMT
Also, when we were pondering who the cupid might be, we thought it might be someone interested in soccer, seeing how they put the Dutchman and the German together, of all pairings. I like your banter. I figured it'd be funny to see if you'd actually banter like an old married couple.
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Post by desperatemarlas on Jul 4, 2014 14:33:45 GMT
I was Mafia I was also the Wicked Stepmother who could silence people hee hee - I'm evil
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Post by SCIENCE on Jul 4, 2014 14:46:38 GMT
I was Mafia I was also the Wicked Stepmother who could silence people hee hee - I'm evil Be silent. The grown ups are talking.
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Post by desperatemarlas on Jul 4, 2014 15:21:14 GMT
I was Mafia I was also the Wicked Stepmother who could silence people hee hee - I'm evil Be silent. The grown ups are talking. k
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Post by whereyouthinkyoupoliying on Jul 4, 2014 15:29:03 GMT
Also, when we were pondering who the cupid might be, we thought it might be someone interested in soccer, seeing how they put the Dutchman and the German together, of all pairings. I like your banter. I figured it'd be funny to see if you'd actually banter like an old married couple. I was Mafia I was also the Wicked Stepmother who could silence people hee hee - I'm evil Ahh, so it really was the mafia who was silencing people! So was Serrland's silence an intentional one to throw people off or did he just happen to not post that day?
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Post by desperatemarlas on Jul 4, 2014 15:39:09 GMT
I like your banter. I figured it'd be funny to see if you'd actually banter like an old married couple. I was Mafia I was also the Wicked Stepmother who could silence people hee hee - I'm evil Ahh, so it really was the mafia who was silencing people! So was Serrland's silence an intentional one to throw people off or did he just happen to not post that day? A bit of both, if I remember right
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Post by Дьяково on Jul 4, 2014 15:44:12 GMT
I like your banter. I figured it'd be funny to see if you'd actually banter like an old married couple. I was Mafia I was also the Wicked Stepmother who could silence people hee hee - I'm evil Ahh, so it really was the mafia who was silencing people! So was Serrland's silence an intentional one to throw people off or did he just happen to not post that day? He was pretending to be silenced to confuse things about the silencing role, and about his guilt. It was supposed to be my play, but I got roasted, so...
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Post by jello on Jul 4, 2014 16:23:42 GMT
It worked on me. Obviously.
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Post by Serrland on Jul 4, 2014 18:50:46 GMT
I like your banter. I figured it'd be funny to see if you'd actually banter like an old married couple. I was Mafia I was also the Wicked Stepmother who could silence people hee hee - I'm evil Ahh, so it really was the mafia who was silencing people! So was Serrland's silence an intentional one to throw people off or did he just happen to not post that day? Like he said, Дьяково was going to play silenced, but he died before he could. Then I saw the votes coming in against me, knew I was beyond hope, and decided might as well keep silent and hope that people think silencing is a vigilante rather than mafia role or something of that sort.
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