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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 11, 2014 17:42:22 GMT
Well you've non-officially committed so I guess you count  Okay... why? Not that I'm judgmental or anything but I'd like a bit more clarity beyond "my gut". Like I said there's perfectly legit gameplay and world-building reasons for both so feel free to share. Pretty much just because it's what I'm used to... Okay... but bear in mind by that standard something like an LRM-20 launcher has a max range of 630 meters.... that's meters, with an M. Not to nitpick but something as relatively primitive (today) as an FIM-32 Redeye has a range from 500 meters to 4.5 KM i'd say that's pretty pathetic, even if we're accounting for the decline of civilization post 1st and 2nd Succession wars. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 17:51:28 GMT
I'm drawing a blank here, so let's go with Classic. |
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 11, 2014 20:02:56 GMT
I'm drawing a blank here, so let's go with Classic. In general or in what specific area? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 20:07:58 GMT
I'm drawing a blank here, so let's go with Classic. In general or in what specific area? In general I believe. |
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Post by SaintB on Nov 11, 2014 20:22:14 GMT
I'm ok with either.
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Post by Дьяково on Nov 11, 2014 20:22:26 GMT
Pretty much just because it's what I'm used to... Okay... but bear in mind by that standard something like an LRM-20 launcher has a max range of 630 meters.... that's meters, with an M. Not to nitpick but something as relatively primitive (today) as an FIM-32 Redeye has a range from 500 meters to 4.5 KM i'd say that's pretty pathetic, even if we're accounting for the decline of civilization post 1st and 2nd Succession wars. Good point... I never stopped and thought about it that way before... Applying a comparison I'm a bit more familiar with... The 660m range on a Gauss Rifle under classic battletech conversion doesn't stack up well at all to the 8000m maximum effective range of the M256 (for those who don't know, that's the main gun of the M1A1 main battle tank)... This definitely changes my mind... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 20:45:07 GMT
If Dyakovo changed his mind I have no problem using Battleforce. I'm not qualified to make a decision so whatever you believe works best will be fine by me.
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 11, 2014 23:15:12 GMT
Okay... but bear in mind by that standard something like an LRM-20 launcher has a max range of 630 meters.... that's meters, with an M. Not to nitpick but something as relatively primitive (today) as an FIM-32 Redeye has a range from 500 meters to 4.5 KM i'd say that's pretty pathetic, even if we're accounting for the decline of civilization post 1st and 2nd Succession wars. Good point... I never stopped and thought about it that way before... Applying a comparison I'm a bit more familiar with... The 660m range on a Gauss Rifle under classic battletech conversion doesn't stack up well at all to the 8000m maximum effective range of the M256 (for those who don't know, that's the main gun of the M1A1 main battle tank)... This definitely changes my mind... Well to be fair, the Abrams wasn't a thing when classic battletech was invented so they couldn't have known. And again maybe on a one for one basis I could see the range being dropped off... But bear in mind these are machines that have all sorts of sensors onboard from radar to rangefinders to seismic sensors, have computers onboard to coalesce that data and feed it to the mechwarrior without it becoming overwhelming... yeah I'd say a 660 meter max range on a gauss rifle is kinda insulting If Dyakovo changed his mind I have no problem using Battleforce. I'm not qualified to make a decision so whatever you believe works best will be fine by me. I mean a standard infantry assault rifle can semi-reasonably hit a target out to 300 meters with a little training, so a laser that weighs one ton a walking war machine barely beating that at max range? I should clarify why I'm asking; it's because IC I won't be reffering to targets at hex ranges at all. Targets will be referred to in actual metric ranges. Still deciding if I'll actually put the "hex" ranges in under the IC or if I'll make all of you do a bit of math before posting |
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Post by Дьяково on Nov 11, 2014 23:42:02 GMT
Good point... I never stopped and thought about it that way before... Applying a comparison I'm a bit more familiar with... The 660m range on a Gauss Rifle under classic battletech conversion doesn't stack up well at all to the 8000m maximum effective range of the M256 (for those who don't know, that's the main gun of the M1A1 main battle tank)... This definitely changes my mind... Well to be fair, the Abrams wasn't a thing when classic battletech was invented so they couldn't have known. And again maybe on a one for one basis I could see the range being dropped off... But bear in mind these are machines that have all sorts of sensors onboard from radar to rangefinders to seismic sensors, have computers onboard to coalesce that data and feed it to the mechwarrior without it becoming overwhelming... yeah I'd say a 660 meter max range on a gauss rifle is kinda insulting If Dyakovo changed his mind I have no problem using Battleforce. I'm not qualified to make a decision so whatever you believe works best will be fine by me. I mean a standard infantry assault rifle can semi-reasonably hit a target out to 300 meters with a little training, so a laser that weighs one ton a walking war machine barely beating that at max range? I should clarify why I'm asking; it's because IC I won't be reffering to targets at hex ranges at all. Targets will be referred to in actual metric ranges. Still deciding if I'll actually put the "hex" ranges in under the IC or if I'll make all of you do a bit of math before posting Hell, to qualify with the M16 in the Marines you have to be able to hit targets at 460m using iron sights... |
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 12, 2014 0:01:04 GMT
Well to be fair, the Abrams wasn't a thing when classic battletech was invented so they couldn't have known. And again maybe on a one for one basis I could see the range being dropped off... But bear in mind these are machines that have all sorts of sensors onboard from radar to rangefinders to seismic sensors, have computers onboard to coalesce that data and feed it to the mechwarrior without it becoming overwhelming... yeah I'd say a 660 meter max range on a gauss rifle is kinda insulting I mean a standard infantry assault rifle can semi-reasonably hit a target out to 300 meters with a little training, so a laser that weighs one ton a walking war machine barely beating that at max range? I should clarify why I'm asking; it's because IC I won't be reffering to targets at hex ranges at all. Targets will be referred to in actual metric ranges. Still deciding if I'll actually put the "hex" ranges in under the IC or if I'll make all of you do a bit of math before posting Hell, to qualify with the M16 in the Marines you have to be able to hit targets at 460m using iron sights... Well you have to account for the Air Force...
and anyone in the Coast Guard that isn't in a law enforcement detachment of any kind.
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Post by Дьяково on Nov 12, 2014 1:33:00 GMT
Hell, to qualify with the M16 in the Marines you have to be able to hit targets at 460m using iron sights... Well you have to account for the Air Force...
and anyone in the Coast Guard that isn't in a law enforcement detachment of any kind.
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 12, 2014 1:36:41 GMT
Well you have to account for the Air Force...
and anyone in the Coast Guard that isn't in a law enforcement detachment of any kind.
Nah... It's not like they're really military... Uh huh. It's Armistice Day so I'm going to let that one slide... for now |
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Post by Дьяково on Nov 12, 2014 1:49:45 GMT
Nah... It's not like they're really military... Uh huh. It's Armistice Day so I'm going to let that one slide... for now You had to know I was going to say that... |
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 12, 2014 1:51:30 GMT
Uh huh. It's Armistice Day so I'm going to let that one slide... for now You had to know I was going to say that... Uh huh, keep talking... bet you're a Wolf's Dragoons fanboy too. Going all soft and squishy and pratttling on and on "Ooooweeeoooaaa, I luuuuvvv Zeta Batallion! Many assault mechs mean they're unbeatable." Or "Seventh Kommando is so Hardcore that NOBODY BEATS THEM EVER! THEIR GODS OF WAR WOULD KICK DEST OR LOKI's ASSES!" |
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Post by Дьяково on Nov 12, 2014 1:55:11 GMT
You had to know I was going to say that... Uh huh, keep talking... bet you're a Wolf's Dragoons fanboy too. Going all soft and squishy and pratttling on and on "Ooooweeeoooaaa, I luuuuvvv Zeta Batallion! Many assault mechs mean they're unbeatable." Or "Seventh Kommando is so Hardcore that NOBODY BEATS THEM EVER! THEIR GODS OF WAR WOULD KICK DEST OR LOKI's ASSES!" ... I have no idea what you're talking about... |
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 12, 2014 1:59:50 GMT
Uh huh, keep talking... bet you're a Wolf's Dragoons fanboy too. Going all soft and squishy and pratttling on and on "Ooooweeeoooaaa, I luuuuvvv Zeta Batallion! Many assault mechs mean they're unbeatable." Or "Seventh Kommando is so Hardcore that NOBODY BEATS THEM EVER! THEIR GODS OF WAR WOULD KICK DEST OR LOKI's ASSES!" ... I have no idea what you're talking about... ... trying to bring it back to Battletech... you know, Wolf's Dragoons? Mercenary group that has an inordinately large amount of mechs and aerospace and vehicles and a massive character shield when it comes to writing more or less? Fanboys gush over them for reasons unk.... Oh screw it, something something riding around with deck apes in the navy blah blah using a bite print to sign re-up contracts yadda-yadda Marines would shit themselves if they saw the kind of weather the USCG usually has to operate in....meh |
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Post by Дьяково on Nov 12, 2014 2:16:25 GMT
... I have no idea what you're talking about... ... trying to bring it back to Battletech... you know, Wolf's Dragoons? Mercenary group that has an inordinately large amount of mechs and aerospace and vehicles and a massive character shield when it comes to writing more or less? Fanboys gush over them for reasons unk.... Oh screw it, something something riding around with deck apes in the navy blah blah using a bite print to sign re-up contracts yadda-yadda Marines would shit themselves if they saw the kind of weather the USCG usually has to operate in....meh Your heart's just not in it tonight... |
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 12, 2014 12:05:28 GMT
... trying to bring it back to Battletech... you know, Wolf's Dragoons? Mercenary group that has an inordinately large amount of mechs and aerospace and vehicles and a massive character shield when it comes to writing more or less? Fanboys gush over them for reasons unk.... Oh screw it, something something riding around with deck apes in the navy blah blah using a bite print to sign re-up contracts yadda-yadda Marines would shit themselves if they saw the kind of weather the USCG usually has to operate in....meh Your heart's just not in it tonight... Well maybe if I wore a boonie hat got two inches from your face and started screaming about Chesty Puller? Would that help? |
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Post by Дьяково on Nov 12, 2014 12:29:48 GMT
Your heart's just not in it tonight... Well maybe if I wore a boonie hat got two inches from your face and started screaming about Chesty Puller? Would that help? It might...  |
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 12, 2014 19:07:35 GMT
Well maybe if I wore a boonie hat got two inches from your face and started screaming about Chesty Puller? Would that help? It might... Well hang on while I kill a few brain cells. Can't think of anything else but ripping the bark off of trees with my teeth... and the blood stripe... and not-at-all-homoeroticism |
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 12, 2014 23:28:38 GMT
Erm... is everyone still playing?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 0:00:53 GMT
Erm... is everyone still playing? Waiting on the lance leader. |
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Post by anonymousjerk on Nov 13, 2014 0:04:07 GMT
Sorry guys, I've got army stuff to do this weekend and i've been busy preparing for that
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 13, 2014 0:08:20 GMT
Sorry guys, I've got army stuff to do this weekend and i've been busy preparing for that Hang on, you're a weekend warrior? |
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Post by anonymousjerk on Nov 13, 2014 0:54:30 GMT
Yes, yes I am.
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 13, 2014 1:06:33 GMT
Oh fun. Well I bet they don't give you folks anything flashing, probably the leftover succession wars stuff but stomping around on the weekends in uniform and in a mech is fun regardless anyway right? |
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Post by anonymousjerk on Nov 13, 2014 1:20:40 GMT
Yeah, it's an extra paycheck in my bank account and It's using up my IRR time. Plus I signed a contract making sure I don't deploy again. Sooo it's worth it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 1:22:33 GMT
I'm heading to bed soon, so I'll be RPing tomorrow morning, I promise.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:12:12 GMT
Hmm! It seems I have misunderstood, but AJ says in the last RP that he went to 80 Kph, so I had Ryo try to match that too? |
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Post by Huck n' Roost on Nov 13, 2014 20:12:30 GMT
Alright, we're moving, which is great. Soon enough there might even be shooting and 'sploding as well... although it's tough to say who will be doing that last bit  THat being said a bit of housekeeping is in order. anonymousjerk I appreciate the leadership, again, but you're missing something in your IC post. The whole Movement/Attack/Utility describing what you did. If you wouldn't mind posting that up on your latest IC post I would really appreciate that. Anyway, in more universal news I've nearly gotten the entire initiative movement and combat tables ready to go, and I'm working on pilot skill incidentals as well, so hopefully those will be up this weekend as well. Edit: Saw it AJ, nevermind, IC has been adjusted accordingly. |
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